RYB 885: How Darren Landed The “Down To Earth” Netflix Original Show That’s Changing LIVES

00:00:01 I had a, you know, some health issues as a kid. And, um, and it took me a while to realize that what I was putting in my mouth actually affected my, my body, my brain.

00:00:16 Hey, Hey, Hey, what's up, everyone. Welcome to the rock, your brand podcast. I'm your host, Scott. Voelker a serial entrepreneur on a mission to help you. This show is designed to teach you, to inspire you, to motivate you, to take massive action and build a future proof business. So whether you're just starting out or taking your existing business to the next level, this is your home. Now, if you're ready, I'm ready. Let's rock your brand. What's up guys. Welcome back to another episode of the rock, your brand podcast. Today, I am super excited because today's episode number eight, 85, by the way, is going to be a great one. I mean, heck all of these interviews have been awesome, but today I am really, really excited to share my next guest. Now this guy here, I actually didn't realize it, but I've been kind of following him for over 10 years.

00:01:17 I've been actually consuming his product for over 10 years and I just started watching actually just finished it, his Netflix original, which was also with his co-host or maybe he was the cohost. I think they're both the hosts for the, uh, the TV show down to earth. That is a Netflix original. It was awesome. And actually my 22 year old son is the one that introduced me to the show. And uh, well his name is Darren Olean also known because he's well, he's a super food Hunter. And, uh, the product that I'm talking about is Shakology, which is a beach body product, which I've been taking now for over 10 years. And didn't realize that he was the creator of that product until I started watching this series and then started looking more into him and then traced it back to beach body and him being a super food Hunter.

00:02:19 And the guy is just an all around great guy, a wealth of information. And really he's going to talk with us about how we can improve our health, but also improve the environment. And also we go and talk a little bit about how it all even happened as far as him landing a beach body deal with Shakeology. And then from there, how he landed the TV show for Netflix, with Zach Efron and how that all transpired. And then also I asked him a very, very personal question at the end that, uh, well, I'm not going to give it away here, but, uh, it was pretty deep and he gave me some really, really good things to think about. I actually asked that question, uh, for, uh, one of my family members, uh, that, uh, well was diagnosed with ALS. Uh, not that long ago, you guys may have remembered that, uh, that episode where I, I mentioned that, um, but I asked him some questions on this and he gave me his thoughts and it was very helpful. Uh, but, uh, that is towards the end of this interview. So guys, I'm going to stop talking now, so you can listen to this interview with this awesome guest, Darren Olean enjoy. All right, Darren, thank you so much, man, for taking some time out of your busy schedule to hang out with us here on the podcast, how you doing man? Great to have you.

00:03:49 Hey man. Thanks for having me. It's always great to have a conscious conversation with likeminded people. So stoked to be here.

00:03:56 Yeah, no, it's, it's great to have you. And you know, it was a long shot for us. My wife is the one that kind of does my outreach and stuff and uh, we were watching the show and she's like, you know, it'd be really cool to get Darren on. I go, go for it, you know? And she reached out to you on Facebook or whatever, and I wasn't that long you actually responded to, you know, I'll, I'll get in touch with your, you know, your publicist and stuff and, and we'll see what we can do. And uh, and here we are, you know, so you never know.

00:04:24 Yeah, well, it's, it's hard for me to say no to people and especially when it's sincere and doesn't matter, it doesn't matter, you know, what people are doing as long as they're kind of moving forward positively, it's, you know, maybe call it my, my Minnesota upbringing or something, but it is tough to stay with the schedule. The schedule is pretty intense right now, but, but I'll tell, I'll take it for sure.

00:04:50 Well, yeah. And just to give you an idea, like our audience here, I mean, we, we build brands online to help, you know, create freedom in our life. And that's really what I've been doing for the past 15 years, which allowed me to, you know, be able to raise my kids three, three kids, you know, coach and do all of the fun stuff as parents we want to do and not have to just be by I'm going to go chase the money. I want to chase the freedom. Um, but with that comes stress, not eating properly, not exercising like you should not being, you know, mentally here, you know, being all over the place. And I think your diet and exercise and just being conscious of what you're doing is huge. And that's why I think you're a great fit. But just because I also want to hear about the story, like, how did this whole thing happened when, you know, you got this show with Zac Efron and you guys start this show, you didn't know what was going to happen, but here we are, and it's blown up your book. I got your book right here, super life, which I guess is a wall street bestseller now. And, uh, got your Baraka nuts, got those over here too, you know, so I got it. And I've got

00:05:58 Shakeology that I've been drinking for 10 years, which you helped create. So finally, to get to meet you, but let's just kind of go like tell us a little bit about people that don't know who you are. Tell them a little bit about who you are, but then your mission and then we'll dig into a lot of different areas if you don't mind.

00:06:14 Yeah, well, you know, I was a regular kid grew up in Minnesota, um, loved sports. Uh, but before all of that, you know, uh, I, I had, uh, you know, some health issues as a kid and, um, and it took me a while to realize that what I was putting in my mouth actually affected my, my body, my brain, um, and really at 16, uh, I picked up my first dumbbell and realized that, you know, if I eat better and if I start training, wow, I can, what I feel that most of my life feeling that this body was fragile. I actually have a LA a lot of authority over it that I didn't realize, but, um, so getting it stronger, getting it healthier, uh, playing sports, um, just gave me the confidence and then actually facilitated having a stronger body. And then, and then, uh, playing college football, I got hurt, which turned into an incredible blessing because then that threw me into physiology, nutrition, kinesiology, all of those kinds of things, and which just really sparked obvious interest of the body and our relationship, uh, with it.

00:07:31 And also then the, the relationship with supplements and food. And, um, I had, after, after I graduated college, I had a kind of a series of kind of holistic pharmacists back in the day and 1984 and, uh, five and six and all the way for the next decade and doctors that I'd run into. And they said, nutrition's the next doctor? Uh, we need to facilitate eating well. And, and so I got taught by some incredible people, um, and it just turned on this curiosity, but then, you know, kind of the Minnesota upbringing and the farming culture, um, and the dad was an ag. My father was an ag professor at the university of Minnesota. He was a business ag professor. And, and so, so I just, you know, for me, when I started looking at supplements and just wasn't impressed by people's quality, that's when I really started superfood hunting as the term.

00:08:38 Uh, cause it, it was given to me, um, years ago and it just got stuck. And that was just the innocence of going around the world to see these incredible plant botanicals, um, adaptogens, you name it on, uh, you know, in corners, the globe, um, it was really just the, not even caring where I was going. It was more of just, well, that's where I'm going, because this is, these are the foods of the ingredients or the botanicals that I'm looking into. And so then that just became this kind of wild obsession of just coming back with, you know, 25 new things that I never even heard about when you come out of the Amazon or come off the mountain tops, um, come away from the islands. You realize that Holy cow, there's a lot of powerful foods. Uh, and then I started just formulating stuff and, and, and really then it was like that last kind of, uh, you know, burning through all my cash and traveling around the world and trying to get some products out there and formulating things.

00:09:47 And that beach body kinda came at the serendipitous time and said, Hey, what, why don't you formulate some stuff for us? And let us worry about marketing it. And it was just, uh, it was a beautiful marriage. And so I could put all of my focus into formulating some of the greatest botanicals in the world, um, and just, you know, lightly touching on as I was kinda going to 40 countries. And then being in remote areas, I saw, I saw environmental issues. I saw social issues. I saw humanitarian issues of, of power or water, food disease, uh, poverty, and then you can't help, but getting in touch with, uh, the empathy for other people around the world and other cultures, but also what are the needs, uh, the needs that other people don't have. Um, so then that was the environmental side of me that was always being informed over the last, you know, 20 years. Um, and I've, you know, I've since then got, got involved in a lot of environmental stuff, but anyway, that's the, that's the first part of the, part of the,

00:11:04 Quite a journey I'm 40 plus countries. And like, you're, you're hunting these superfoods. It sounds exciting. But the one thing that I want to know the answer to is how does the beach body thing happen? How does that, like, how does that just, you know, land because everyone thinks like, Oh, it's just magic. And it's like, well, how did that think? Cause that was a pretty pivotal Mo or pivotal moment in your, in your career that it opened it up where you now you could focus a hundred percent of your time and not have to worry about the marketing

00:11:31 A hundred percent. Yeah. I mean, I was, I was focused on just doing this myself, um, because I was seeing things that no one was, no one else was seeing. I was exposed to things and things that no one else was. So I committed to it and I lost my father, um, 16 years ago, but 17 years ago at that time. And that was just kind of this wake up call of like, don't dabble anymore. Like you need to get these things out and because this can help people. And so from that point forward, I just fully committed and started, you know, a company and hired some people. But then of course, just kind of creaking through that cap, that cash a beach body got wind of what I was doing. And I met Isabel dialer, the now wife of Carl who's a, who's a master nutritionist and formulator on her own.

00:12:29 And, uh, as soon as we met, uh, here in Malibu, how many, 12 years ago, uh, 13 years, more than that now, four, 14, 14 years ago. Um, we, we just had this instant synergy and, uh, and, and way that we whole food nutrition, super plants, uh, filling in the gaps for people's nutrition, get them, getting them the active compounds and the micronutrients that are required. And then when I met Carl that his energy of, of committing to helping, you know, hundreds of thousands and millions of people, uh, and he just said, just focus on the formulation without compromise and let me figure out how to sell it. And that, that marriage of kind of us three in a certain sense happened. And then I just put my head down and sort of really doing the formulation over the next couple of years. Um, and then, uh, we were able to kind of lock that formula in, and the next thing, you know, a decade plus later we've sold, you know, nearly $4 billion, uh, of this credible superfood shake that has helped not only the people in the farmers and the forages around the world, but it's also obviously help people getting, uh, this powerful nutrition and every day.

00:14:00 Um, so that's, that's like, you know, that that's like, uh, you know, I've always used this example. It's like, you know, when you create, uh, you know, create a song and you, you get to experience people enjoying that song in the sense I get to experience, and I've had have gotten to experience people getting the benefits of, of these said compounds and plants and superfoods. Um, and it's just, you know, it was a marriage kind of made in heaven and that way, and that it just, you know, blew up and exploded me. And I continued, you know, kind of doing, doing my thing and, and continue to this day. And, uh, I've essentially moved into more and more sustainable, um, not only consciousness inside of myself, but also environmental and social and economic and environmental initiatives now that I'm kind of working on.

00:15:02 Yeah, I love it. And I think that's a great story. And I mean, I'm still, I told you that I'm, I'm still, uh, a user of it. I, I just literally had, excuse me, had a, um, had a shake about an hour ago. And, uh, and it's, uh, I think it's, it's coming back up on me right now. Just a little bit, actually I need a sip of water and it might be some of that super food there.

00:15:24 That's why they want it once, once your attention.

00:15:28 Uh, but I mean, I literally, if I don't have it, I do feel a difference. Uh, I feel better. Um, my skin's better, you know, hair, like all that stuff that's on the external, but the internal just feel better, more regular, like the whole thing. It's like all the way around. And I actually enjoy it. I have the chocolate and I have a little bit of natural peanut butter in it, a little bit of a frozen banana in it and Smallman milk, and then I'm good and I'm good. And I enjoy it every day. So it's like a milkshake. So it really is. Um, but anyway, this isn't a promotion for Chicago, although you should probably check it out. Um, but what I did want to kind of talk about now is this new thing, right? Like in, you know, we're talking years later, right.

00:16:10 And, you know, I get introduced to this show, uh, down to earth with Zac Efron, who my kids were fans of, like back in the day high school. I mean, I heard hands, you know, get back in the game, gotta get you, get your head in the game, like this whole thing. Right. You know, and I'm like, come on. I mean, all right. So net, it comes full circle and I'm like, all right, now, this kid, isn't a kid anymore. And he's doing the show and my son, who's 22, brought it to my attention. And he said, you should check this out. You guys would really like you and you and mom. And I'm like, okay. So we checked it out and we fell in love with it immediately. And from there, we were like, okay, who's this Darren guy. Right. And then we started looking into your stuff and then trace it back to Chicago, which was just like, this is the guy you're like, he's the guy.

00:16:54 And so we, we just enjoyed going to the different places. Uh, and I know you just did a, an episode with a rich roll on kind of like it wasn't exactly how you and intended it to be. Um, because you didn't want it to go into the wrong direction. You want it to go into more of a educational direction. I thought it was perfect. Be honest with you. It kept my interest. Yeah. So tell us, how did it all, how did that all happen? I know part of the story, but how did it happen? Uh, like how did you end up meeting Zach and kind of setting that deal?

00:17:25 Yeah. I mean, it definitely was a, uh, if you, you know, any of, any of you believe in serendipity, it was definitely serendipitous from the word go and, and full circle, which is why it was so great to be on rich role's podcast. Again, uh, you know, I've been on about four times, but this was like the second time I was on Zack had heard that episode and I was going off

00:17:50 On something, you know, I don't even remember what my second episode was

00:17:54 Focused on, but,

00:17:56 You know, my Theo's, and what I believe in is obviously health, the people health to the planet. So I'm always kind of coming from that space and it's, it's in, it's in every cell of my body. And, and the story goes that, you know, Zach was touched by something and he, he's obviously into health and nutrition and I didn't know Zach at all. Right. So I didn't even see high school musical. So that's funny. So, so, so how it went was Zach heard something on the show. He was touched by something, he reached out to this Olympian swimmer. That was a mutual friend of rich roll's, uh, Connor Dwyer. And then, uh, rich ended up calling me and he said, Hey, uh, you know, Zach Efron wants to, to see if he can get your cell phone. Um, cause he was, you know, he, he wants to chat with you and I kinda was like, okay, yeah, whatever.

00:19:01 Um, and kind of forgot about it, right? Because you know, there's a lot of athletes and celebrities over the years that always want some sort of elixir or some, you know, advantageous, you know, botanical that they think I can help them with. So I wasn't really giving it much weight. Um, and so kind of a few months later I get this random text and I was like, Hey, it's Zach Efron, blah, blah, blah. I really loved yada yada yada. And he just kinda poured his heart out and attacks and I just reached out to him like, Hey dude, uh, very sweet, thank you for the message. We'd love to, you know, get lunch with you. So we had this incredible vegan lunch, uh, and hung out for a few hours and just kind of talked about everything. And, um, obviously you, he was talking about a lot of health stuff and it was really at the very end where, you know, there was always this idea and people were pitching this idea of superfood hunting show for, for a decade.

00:20:07 And it just never really lined up. And plus for me to be interested, I just wanted to expand it because I didn't want to myopically, even though it's amazing and fascinating and everything else, I want it to open it up because my care for the world had shifted into all of these other areas. So I said, you know, so I had already written down an idea for the show. And so I said, yeah, I got this idea for a show, um, that I want to expose some of the environmental stuff. I want to expose food systems and water and medicinal plants and travel around the world and bring people into these situations. And he was like, Whoa, man, that sounds amazing. And we just kind of left it. And a couple hours later, he called me back and I have this existing deal, uh, at Netflix.

00:21:03 But the concept I don't really like, but I talked to my team and, and we can bring you in and kind of take over the concept of the show, but having certain aspects of the old show that we still have to, because it was in the deal, we have to travel, which, which was part of the situation. Anyway, we had to kind of have food as a segment. Well, that's easy. Um, so, so I got kind of adopted into this already family, uh, that weren't necessarily in this space at all, which turned out to be to your very point, better that I didn't lead the March on. Exactly what I wanted to do is pushing it as much as possible on the information and that we actually, you know, had the adventure, had the fun, which I have fun every time I travel. Anyway, they obviously edited a lot of that stuff into the show.

00:22:06 Um, but Zach and I, you know, he's like my little brother, so that's how it happened. And it just, you know, next thing you know, we're, you know, three and a half months on the road going all over the globe together, any one thing sealed the deal. And that was because Zach said this, this one thing to me, he was like, listen, I have all these people that follow me because I'm an actor, but I want to do something with that platform. And, and that was it. As soon as he said that, I was like, okay, he's sweet. He cares, he's wants to do something. And he wants to do something with the platform that's been given to him. And, and because it came the way it did without me going, you know, without all these people over the years going find a celebrity, do it this way. And I was like, Oh my God, I don't want to do anything like that. Like, and it came this other way. It came through him and then it just was perfect. And then the synergy of the entire production, I can't tell you the family that was created in the care, uh, that went all, both directions from the film guys to the editors, to the people, 13 people, 14 people, we spent running around the globe. Incredible, incredible. And everyone ended up changed because of it.

00:23:35 Yeah. Well, yeah. I mean, even myself and my wife and my kids, uh, you know, we had, we had watched it and it makes you, it makes you think, right. It makes think,

00:23:46 I mean, even about, you know, plastic, right? Like, I mean, just stuff that I knew about and I wanted to change, but like one, you know, one thing can make a huge difference if you just do it. And you're bringing attention to that living longer, obviously like going to these blue zones and exposing that stuff. I mean, that's just, it's interesting. And it's like, you know, as we get older, right? It's like, I want to live longer. There's some people that like, I don't care. I'm going to be here. You know, whatever, 50 years, 60 years, it doesn't matter. I'm like, no, I want to live a long time. I got a lot to do here. And I got family and I don't want to see my grandkids grow up. Like I want all that. So I value life every single day. And that really, I mean, to me, it was like, it exposed new things to me, but it was entertaining, but yet educational.

00:24:30 Yeah, it was a, it was, I I'm telling you, I was really nervous to be honest with you. Cause I didn't know, no one knows how successful something's going to be sure. But, but I was always nervous. I had to surrender several times down the road. I pushed back. I'd pushed back now, let's interview this guy and my friend over here. And I mean, I had, you know, for the people that you didn't see, I had 10 others, uh, you know, that, that, that would have been amazing. Had it been a different show, but it's just, I, you know, humbly, I'm just grateful that even though I, I do have a control freak that lives inside of me, um, that surrendering and trusting other people who are Uber really talented in their area of expertise and also had elements and, and, uh, of aspects of them that cared about, uh, and growing.

00:25:29 So as we continued and them getting it, so I could trust more and more of like, this is why we're doing this and everyone, everyone did. And so, you know, I, you know, collaboration, especially now more than ever collaboration to make greatness, I think is, is underutilized and under acknowledged. Um, so even though Zach and I were like, the host's great, uh, but it absolutely was a team. And then the people that we were able to touch and meet along the way, um, you know, we, you know, the, the chocolate company in Iceland, their, their doors were shutting. Like we, we, we saved their business. COVID all of this stuff. Like they're, they're like over the moon and the charities that we were involved with got huge amounts of donations and the tension. I mean, I just want to keep going sh you know, show or not.

00:26:34 I just want to keep going down that path, which I am in many ways, because again, it's great. Okay. Cool attention. But the attention for attention sake is nothing. Zero, not interested attention for the transmutation and the transformation and mobilization of creating things, moving forward, creating change, moving forward. For me, it was like, cool, more people, great. Come, keep coming, keep coming, keep the attention coming because I have things. And I have people that are doing great things moving forward in this world. And as businesses and for health, that's really what it's about. And, you know, being, you know, nearly 50 now I've spent my lifetime looking inside myself. And so to have this come this way, I feel very responsible in a great way to continue to, you know, make this planet better and make people on it better. And certainly cut down a judgment, cut down on all of this stuff. And let's just come together where there's mutual benefit, benefits, uh, and problems that we can actually solve together.

00:27:58 Yeah, no, it's beautiful. I love all of that. And so, okay. What I do, I, I've got some points. That's why I'm looking down. I got some notes here. I want to make sure I hit them. Um, I got one for my wife that I have to hit. Um, so I got to get that one, right. Darren, come on. I'm going to nail that one. Um, okay. So, uh, the one thing I did want to talk about, cause one segment on the show was about water and you actually, you changed the way I thought about water. I mean, I didn't, I knew the water, there was different types and better than others and you shouldn't have this purified. And I knew that, but not to the extent I thought that episode would like different waters and bottles and the guy coming out and pouring it where you guys and all that stuff. I thought that was brilliant. I loved it. I was like, I want to taste that, you know, but, um, I also spent about three or four hours putting a new water system in my sink, underneath it with this, you know, it's, what's the name? I got the name here. Aqua aquas sauna.

00:28:59 [inaudible]

00:28:59 Aqua sauna. It's a, it's a system goes underneath. It's got like four filtrations in. Then it got mineralization that gets put back. I was looking at the one that you had mentioned where you kind of, you evaporate and then you distill it down and what's the, what's the best, what should I be doing? Cause I can't go to the spring. Right. And I don't want to buy it in a plastic jug. So what, what do I, what do I do?

00:29:20 Yeah, exactly. So, I mean, part of water was such a massive episode. It could have been the whole series I'm sure. So, so we were able to touch on like, you know, natural water, uh, key lates minerals, it structures itself. It can be massive. It could taste different, it can act differently. It can like have, it can deliver information. Like it's a, it's a rabbit hole of ridiculous science of quantum physics, biology, chemistry,

00:29:51 You name it. So we,

00:29:53 I wanted to touch on water, but some of the, kind of the overarching kind of mechanisms of water that we wanted to focus on was listen, there's what's in the water. So naturally spring, you know, as water foretastes, it doesn't flow in a straight line. It's not actually as turbulent waters rolling through and down rivers. It's key lading minerals. It's being electrically charged by the Earth's energy field, as well as the UV rays of the sun. And it's energizing water. And that's very, very important as it relates to actually giving us energy and hydrating us and cleansing us and supporting just homeostasis in the bat and the body. So there's many, many things. And so natural water of course is the way to go because it's, it's, it's, it's already structured, it's got the minerals and all of that stuff. However, we don't have access to it.

00:30:59 The beautiful thing, the wonderful kind of human development is I can go to my tap. I can turn on water on demand anywhere, pretty much any anywhere on the first world. Uh, for the most part, we can do that incredible. So you have to have chlorine as a chemical in order for it to be strong enough to make it all the way to the tap. So that microbiological activity doesn't kill you. So there, there is things. And then per unfortunately, percolating into our water system is more and more modern, uh, kind of fatal conveniences. And that is like, you know, um, nitrates from agricultural runoff, uh, pesticides, herbicides, glyphosates, PCBs, plastics, microplastics, um, fluorides, all of this stuff does show up in a lot of the tap water. So although the show we're like, you know, our wonderful Martin, the small EA said, purified waters is not good.

00:32:07 I don't necessarily agree. And he was right in one aspect, but not in the other. So if we're not having the perfect water and the perfect bottle from our perfect, uh, tap, we do need to destructure the water or, or empty the junk out because that does show up in our total dissolved solids. The junk in the water contributes to that number increasing of TDS, total dissolved solids. We have to strip that out. Easiest thing to do is a reverse osmosis or a distillation take that out. It doesn't allow for those, those issues to come out in the water once it's gone through those processes. So a distillation or reverse osmosis is great to do. Um, and then you have to build that water back up again. So you do need to add some, some angstrom size minerals, smaller minerals that the body can actually use on a cellular level, uh, and an easy way to do that.

00:33:14 It's naturally inherent within a very good unrefined, sea salt, or Himalayan crystal salt. So a pinch per glass of the distilled or aro or a half a teaspoon per gallon. So once you've just cleaned out your water, just add it back. And then man, you can, you can structure your water to put it in glass, put it out in the sun, shake your water, give it some energy back, let it, uh, precipitate more oxygen in it. You know, getting, uh, uh, there's a company that we've already blown them out, uh, because I've mentioned them, but it's uh, blue, blue water, uh, blue bottle love. It's got this blue cobalt and blue as they, as they found out was a frequency. When the light passes through it would, would, uh, create the frequency and the water that was very similar to the frequency of healthy cells.

00:34:10 So you can kind of do a little hack of energizing your water by putting it in glass cobalt blue, but listen, just glass in general, just that eliminates all your plastic. You don't precipitate, you know, a false estrogens in your body from plastic, but that's an easy way. You can get a distillation. Um, you can check, go to my website. Aqua Tru gave me a hell of a discount. So they have an ROI system that goes on the counter top. There's several technologies, but go on, Amazon spent a couple hundred bucks. It will pay you back within the first few months of not buying, you know, bottles,

00:34:52 Buying a blue, a blue glass, right? Like buying that and then putting it in there and setting it in the sun. I never heard of that. That's that's freaking awesome. I mean, you always hear us, you hear a sun tea, you know?

00:35:04 Yeah, yeah, yeah. And even if you don't get it in the sun all the time, don't worry about it. Cause that that glass, and then there's, there's usually carved into the glass, which is a cool kind of benefit. You can get like gratitude, love all of that stuff. And that, and that is literally energy being fused in the water. That's scientifically been proven over and over again, the influence of energy and in many different ways. Um, so, so obviously just that, just that intention, intention is always good, no matter what doing so, even if you have this in glass, your intention now is to, you know, give yourself some love it's it's to take a beat and go, I'm now appreciating even more. This water that I'm putting in, even that act alone is opening up your body is de-stressing you taking you down parasympathetically and allowing your body to receive water in a different way. So that's not a, that's not a downside in any way.

00:36:10 No, I love that. And it's, you know, the power of gratitude, I think is huge. And so many people, I don't think value that. One thing I remember you saying on the show to, uh, to Zack is you did a little morning breathing, walk me through that real quick. Cause a lot of people don't think that. And I was one of them I'm like, I don't have time for meditation. I can't meditate. And then I found Headspace, which that helps you with guided meditation. And I'm like, well, it's better than nothing. How can someone incorporate that in their life? If they're like, I can't meditate my mind drifts too much. I'd say, Oh, what would you say, do this start here.

00:36:46 Well, that's, that's why the, I think the, the breathing, uh, the intentional breathing now has gotten into athletics in a very important way. So they kind of got us all, even though, you know, I've meditated, I've done a bunch of stuff, but the breathing, you know, 10 years ago really was just made it very intentional. So, and then the great work that's being done literally in front of our face, our nose, we, we got out of nose breathing, right? So, so nose breathing extremely important. The only way you should breathe. So shut your mouth, a tongue on the top of your roof of your mouth, nose breathing only. So you can go just start here, go five, five, five, five in, in take a breath in for five, hold it on the inhale for five exhale for a count of five, hold on the exhale for five and then repeat.

00:37:51 So that's an easy way. It gives your, it shifts your body distresses. You immediately, it gives your body attention, breathing through your nose, opens up the knee it by going the air, going through the nose brings in and ignites and turns on the nitric oxide and the nitric oxide increases oxygen receptivity in the Aviola lie. And, and that deep breathing is bringing the oxygen deeper down into the lungs, activating the diaphragm that gets shut off. Um, and so that alone, you will increase your oxygen saturation on the side as a side benefit of having your mind focused on the five, five, five, five. Right. So do, and do it for five minutes, right? So add the other five, do it for five minutes and start there. And I kind of do, I definitely do a rapid breathing nose breathing. I do recovery breathing after exercise.

00:38:54 Uh, I do a few rounds of that. So I've already done it. And every time before I eat, I actually downshift and do nasal breathing about five in five out. Just do a bunch of gratitude stuff every time before I eat. So now my breathing is all about what I'm doing. Um, and it just changes your life. Not to mention, you know, Patrick McKeown, this may sound crazy. Mouth breathing doesn't allow your face. It shifts your, your, your in our development. It shifts the, the chin back. It shuts off the airway. It doesn't allow for the nose to open up. So people have compromised breathing patterns all the time. And then you end up breathing through your mouth at night, which is horrible. It doesn't allow you to shift into that deeper centers, the melatonin and everything else. So you can actually healthfully if you don't have compromised breathing and like apnea of any kind, but you can actually tape your mouth shut, um, and go to sleep that way.

00:40:00 And now over time, I don't have to do that anymore. Like I wake up if you wake up and you have a dry mouth, you've been nose, you've been mouth breathing all night and your sleep is going to be in the toilet. So your life will change when you start nose breathing. So that's a little bit on nose breathing, Patrick McKeown. I just interviewed him on the podcast. He's a good friend. He's got a great book called the oxygen advantage. Um, that will, that will change your life without a doubt. And, and you, in terms of, and everyone listening, exercise knows only. And if you really get behind, uh anaerobically and you need to get the CO2 out. So in the nose, out the mouth, but I would recommend just shifting back and don't, don't work out so much that you can't keep up with your nose breathing because over time your body will get so, so much better at your aerobic capacity by, by nose only working out, um, in, in, in bursts, if I'm, you know, sprinting up a mountain or something, I'll go in the nose, out the mouth and just get the CEO to out, you know?

00:41:08 So speak, speaking to that, like, so let's just, let's just dig into exercise real quick. I mean, you're what, what are you? 40, 47 or 49 49. Okay. I'm we're, I'm 48. So we're about the same age. So what, what, what are we doing at this age right now? Like what should I be doing? I know what I'm doing, but like, what should I be doing? Um, and again, not being like, Oh, I gotta work out, you know, for an hour and a half every day. And like, it's like becomes a chore and a job and all of that stuff. Like what can someone do that says I don't have time to work out so we can get that in, into our daily routine so we can stay healthy, but also the stress and all of the benefits that come with doing that

00:41:49 In terms of working out or just general.

00:41:52 Yeah. I mean, so some people say, you know, walking is good and some people say walking isn't as good, right? Like just, you know, walk or you should be sprinting, or you should be doing interval training or all of these different things. I'm a big believer is like, go take a walk, chill, you know, relax. And if you want to do some bursts, do some bursts, right. Do a little bit of weight training. You know, you want your muscles to stay strong, like all in. I'm just really basic. I don't want to overcomplicate it and think I have to go to the gym. And I'm like, no, I'm not going to the gym right now anyway. But if I was it's like, I don't want to go there for an hour and a half and try to be a, you know, a Hercules, you know what I mean? Like it's not what I'm about.

00:42:30 Yeah. I mean, that's all depends on, on where someone's at, obviously, but, but if you're talking about us and our kind of age category, I I'm saying like, you need to, you need to lift heavy. You need to, it's hard, but very, but not for a long period of time. Like when I'm saying, I'm not saying one rep max is, and I'm not saying all that stupid shit, I'm just saying like, like intensity, because that intensity and pushing yourself for short burst of time, that increases, I mean, growth, hormone, testosterone, regulation, uh, obviously bone density, the more lean body mass we have. Uh, I have, I'm pretty much as strong as I was 20 years ago. Um, I can still, I don't even try for strength. I just, I just go hard. And, you know, the other day I was surfing and the surf was a little low and I was like, I still have some in the tank.

00:43:26 So I just did 10 sprints on the beach. Um, just because I wanted to activate, I can feel the, the hormonal shift. It's very powerful. And so I will, but that's a thing. My actual workout time, 20 minutes to 35 minutes tops when I'm actually, you know, I've maybe stretched that maybe warmed up a little bit, but when my actual workout time, it's no more than 20 to 35 minutes. Like it's, it's activated, it's intentional, it's powerful, it's strong. Uh, it's it's functional training. Um, and then I'm, then I'm downshifting immediately. So I'm on my back breathing routine, uh, get the, get the lactic acid out, get the CO2 out. So that's where I will do. Actually I will downshift the heart rate is quickly as possible in the nose, out the mouth. And as soon as I can drop my heart rate in half right away within three to four breaths, I then go mouth breathing because I want to take in as much oxygen and get rid of as much CO2, um, and lactic acid with that oxygen.

00:44:43 So then I'll do mouth breathing and just do four rounds of about 50 breaths, uh, like that. And then boom, I'm in LA LA land. And I've also, and I've also shifted myself down from this very stressful, wonderful zone to parasympathetic, to increasing a huge amount of oxygen. Uh, and then I'll maybe go into the sauna and ice bath, um, to finish. And that's kind of it. Um, but I, but I do something every day and maybe, I mean, maybe I need a day where I just chill a little bit. I'll just do a mountain bike, do a, a whatever. But, um, I think number one, we need to be intentional with our movements, uh, and be able to, to, to challenge ourselves in that way. But, uh, but you know, I've talked to some longevity doctors and they were like, there's nothing more powerful for longevity, or there is a lot of things, more powerful, but one thing that's super powerful for longevity is lifting heavy things. And that goes for women too, by the way, because your, your, your bone density, your lean muscle mass is extremely important, especially as our hormonal situation is shifting over the years.

00:45:58 Yeah. I think the, the hard thing is when you get older in myself, I've got like old injuries, right? So it's like, I can't do military press anymore. Right. I do that. I snapped my back out of whack and then I'm done for a week, you know, and it's like, I know what I can do. And I know what I can't do. And it's like, deadlifts, I'm not doing deadlifts because I'm going to snap my lower back and then I'm done. You know? So it's like, I guess in my thinking of it correctly, like just figure out what your body will allow you to do and do that. Or how do we, I mean, I know we probably have to strengthen our course, our back doesn't go. So then we can do this

00:46:31 Right. Well that, I think that's the logic. And it's like, you want to totally acknowledged where your body's at right now. Yeah. You definitely don't want to injure yourself. I mean, it's so easy to injure yourself, but you also have to be proactive as to why that's going off, right. Why that's not stabilizing your system and, and constantly be a student for your own body to do. Cause listen, kinesiology is all about something's being pulled together and something being pulled apart and that's the musculature and the neuromuscular system and the, and the fascia and the pushing and pulling of each body system and shoulder and hips and joints and ankles and knees, like, you know, I'm a big fan of like consulting with some, some physios and getting regular work. And having people look at you and assess you. And, you know, I work out with a bunch of buddies, so we're always kind of like, Hey dude, your, your back's rounding on that move.

00:47:40 You gotta shift. And you know, so, so that's, that's super important. Um, we have to be better advocates for our own health that's without a doubt. And that's everything that you're putting in your mouth, don't expect companies to have your best interests, do your homework on the supplements, on the foods, all of that stuff. And also, uh, you know, like you said, reverse engineer, what's going on with the shoulder, what's going on with the lower back. What's not allowing me to move optimally. I really don't let age be a factor. Um, yeah, of course I've got scrapes and cuts and the old past injuries, but sure. I'm constantly looking for ways to overcome and, and still still be able to respond to life as powerfully as I can. And that is being an advocate for yourself. And definitely don't throw in the flag and just say, that's just who, who I am and what I am. Um, again, looking at what you're doing now, acknowledging where you're at, but then also being an advocate for balance your own physiology.

00:48:53 I think mine definitely is core. You know what I mean? Like I think I just, I got to strengthen the core. I mean, it's just, as you get older too, that gets, I mean, everything gets weaker, but it's like everything stems from the core. And I know that that's, that's an area that I need to focus on more. And I think when you do that, like you said, you're not overcompensating for doing a military press and then you're, you know, it's everything shifts when you're, you're weak in one area to try to support the other

00:49:17 A hundred percent flexibility, core strength balance, for sure. Yeah.

00:49:22 Okay. Uh, okay. So two more things real quick. Uh, this one here, um, we, we don't have to go too deep in this. I just want your take on it because I know you come from one angle versus, uh, someone else. Okay. So Bulletproof Dave Asprey. Okay. He's got his whole philosophy. Right. And, and I mean, honestly I like butter in my coffee and it tastes good. I'm not using the dairy while I am, but I mean, just I'm doing it differently. What's your thoughts on that whole philosophy? Um, and I think, I, I know I see a smile mouth too, cause it was funny when I was going to interview you. And I told my, my audience and they're like, I would love to know what he thinks about the whole, you know, high, fat diet thing. I'm I believe it's like moderation. Like, you know, like you can't go all one way go the other, but you can, but it's just, what are you, what are you going after? You're like, what is it, what are you trying to achieve? So what's your thoughts on that? And like, what's your take, I have you, have you met Dave? Do you guys talk like

00:50:23 I have yet to meet Dave acid? I've had many had a couple opportunities

00:50:28 And I just,

00:50:29 It just didn't work out. Um, you know, uh, again, I mean, I think that he's contributed a lot in this space. Um, you know, one of the first kind of quote unquote, even though I hate the term biohacking, the kind of, a lot of it is kind of getting back, uh, where we do align on many things is getting back to nature and, um, circadian rhythms and light and blocking the blue light. I've got my own blue blocking glasses on and there's a lot of things that he's contributed to. So, so there's definitely, but you know, there there's liberties that he's made, um, that probably kind of can unpack anymore because he's, he's created a whole empire out of it. That's the problem with, um, people, I mean, you got 40,000 research articles and plant based nutrition. You've got some of the leaders in longevity, uh, that definitely, if you increase your saturated fat intake, there's just no good benefit. That's going to happen for that. That's my point of view. Um, and again, really the only evidence, if you like the taste of butter in your coffee, then eat it. But the thinking that you're, you are

00:51:42 Definitely not utilizing that fat in the way

00:51:45 That people have told you, you're utilizing it just by putting fat in your coffee. So thinking that you're biohacking and getting that fat into your brain is just a bunch of hogwash. So, so, you know, from my perspective, um, you know, Alyssa, I didn't drink coffee. I think coffee is extremely acidic. Um, I love it, but it just, it's just the various Siddiq. Now the alchemy of coffee and coffee fruit, uh, that's a whole different deal. Right? Cause that, that physiologically in the body, it changes everything. So, um, but I'm not even saying like, if people are gonna drink coffee, that's no problem. But, but, um, uh, so you know, you look at, you look at longevity principles and even doc dr. Valter Longo, the research and, uh, dr. David Sinclair and both are friends and I know them, um, uh, and then you've got the work of, uh, uh, I've just talked to dr.

00:52:47 Ferman, dr. Joel Ferman. I mean, you've got zero on the, how should I say this? Zero uncompromised peer reviewed research. That definitely proves that if you increase your saturated fat intake, you're running down towards degenerative disease. You're, you're starting to, and that if, then you start turning on, you know, over 15% of your protein intake, and now you're just throwing on nature. You're throwing on fuel to those, um, M tour and cancer promoting genes and, and all of that stuff. So, you know, at the end of the day, I want to definitely believe in the research and some of the people I actually interviewed myself in terms of actually longevity. Um, so, and then if you really want to tweak your entire view of this with, with, um, hundreds and hundreds of, of data to support every word that these guys are saying, mastering diabetes, check out that book, because that definitely goes into with ridiculous detail.

00:54:06 The saturated fat is clogging up the sensitivity for insulin, and that is the actual main culprit or setting you up to diabetes. Now, people on this case, no thing, if you're on keto, you're, you're gumming up your, uh, your insulin receptors and everything else. So when you jump back on carbs, you'll get spiked. You'll get all, all these other things only if you don't under don't know, I understand that physiology you'll go see carbs are bad, but you've done all this damage. Not to mention from a Quito perspective. I was like the first year physiology ketosis is a very dangerous thing to stay in, to live in very difficult to stay, to be in it. Um, so I, it just doesn't make any sense from a longterm lifestyle to live into that way. And then you just start digging into a lot of these dudes are like, you know, they've, they've taken pharmaceutical drugs to have their brain while they're trying to promote this, this, this weird stuff.

00:55:18 It's like dig underneath the covers. These guys aren't really authentic. Anyway, I'm not saying it's, Dave's not authentic. I'm not saying, but it's, it's, it just doesn't make long term because you just said something very important. I want to live long. I want to be around for my grandkids. And if you look at the centurions and the blue zones and some of the greatest research and the Mediterranean diet and the, and the, uh, the 40,000 research articles that support this understanding of low, low saturated, fat, low protein, uh, diversity of plants, um, yeah, it doesn't say you don't have, you know, keep just plant plant or keep, keep, uh, animal protein low. Uh, if you still want to eat animals, whatever, but just, you got to understand that no one macro ingredient is, is bad. It's just what we've demonized. These candidates just doesn't make sense from that from a healing and a health perspective.

00:56:25 So, I mean, again, because, and for the American public and just anyone in general, it's confusing, right? It's like, you get this, you get that one, and then you get this one over here. And that one it's like, I just want to do what is right. And it's almost like you have to, you have to almost believe in someone that they have done the research or that they have trusted advisors or whatever, because honestly, like, I love whole, I love whole foods. I'll eat them all. I mean, I'll eat avocados, I'll eat, uh, you know, I'll eat lettuce, I'll eat like all different types of food, right? Like nuts. I've got your fruit and nuts here. Like, I've got, I want to do the right thing, but it's like, you're mr. You're missed communicated. Or your information is like here one day, it's plant-based the next day. It's not, and this, this it's like, I just want to know what's the right thing to do and I'll do it. You know what I mean? And that's all that I think anyone's really asking for. It's not really even a weight loss thing for me. It's I just want to have it help your internal side. You know,

00:57:19 I mean, the thing that kind of breaks through most of it too, is when you start doing your own testing of yourself, what are you deficient in? Do some blood work. Uh, there's a great company called via home that you can do, uh, your microbiological testing, get a little test kit. Uh, it's got, it's very easy to use. You just get a little of your fecal matter and put it in. And they just test can send all of these markers back and see efficiencies. They're also now moving into mitochondrial activity, uh, but with blood work, hell hair analysis can be effective for, uh, for a mineral, uh, what you're missing in that do, I mean, there's, again, you have to take on, we are biochemically individuals and, and if you are coming from a depleted zone, there may be times in that place to do a type of lifestyle shift that's appropriate for that to get you back to homeostasis, and then you can shift then.

00:58:24 So, so it's not, you know, it's not either, or I, you know, I've been plant based for, I don't know, 15, 16, 17 years. I just found, I just find ways to get those nutrients in its most, whole form. I just, and I also have some of the knowledge of being able to access some of these foods. And, uh, and then the basic grow your own food support, your local farmers, go to your grocery, go to your, uh, uh, local, uh, uh, markets like that kind of thing. Try to eat close to home, uh, eat a diversity of plants, uh, drink a bunch of water, go to sleep, get outside, uh, stay away from the toxic exposure of many of our fatal conveniences and lathers and lotions and deodorants. And half the time we're now in this zone where you're compromised because of all of the compromised situations. We've, we've put ourselves in, in the modern day world. That's a actually I'm moving on, potentially writing a whole book on the modern day, fatal conveniences of exposure of bad things that people don't know about. And that's part of I've started doing it on my podcast. I have this little segment called fatal conveniences where I'm revealing certain aspects, even things in on receipts, the chemicals on receipts, the, uh, toothpicks and like deodorants and shampoos. And like, we don't know if we don't know. Right. Um, so yeah,

01:00:00 No, that's, that's good. I appreciate that. All right. So the question that my wife wants me to ask, which I want to know too, um, cause this is kind of personal. Um, we had a family member recently diagnosed with ALS and he got diagnosed probably close to a year ago now. And his, um, he's really shown not many signs of, you know, basically losing the upper, you know, the upper muscular and all of the stuff that happens with ALS. Um, he also did shift his diet immediately. Like he went real strict. I mean, he's even doing like, uh, a whole glass of celery juice, like first thing in the morning. Like, I mean it's, and we don't know, maybe that's me, there's very little out there to help someone in that condition. My question to you is, and again, I'm not saying that you're a, you know, a doctor you're going to give me like advice and all that stuff.

01:00:51 But if it was you or someone you knew, what would be that advice that you'd give that person? I mean, as far as like maybe diet or exercise, or like, what are some things that you could do that are within your power? You're not relying on an institution to say we don't really have the answers, but if you do this, you might get an extra three months. You know what I mean? Like what would, with your knowledge of like the bio in our, you know, the biochemistry and stuff, what would you, what would you think?

01:01:21 Well, I mean, honestly, it's kind of back to what we, we just went into. If you're in that severity of a situation, um, then you, you have to do every test imaginable to see what the toxic load is in your body. That could be everything from your teeth, um, and root canals or, or fairy, very dangerous situation. If you have any root canals, it can be, um, toxifying you, and you don't even know it through the, the, that, that, uh, microbiological kind of ceiling of a dead tooth. Um, so I would do everything from heavy metals testing, uh, like, uh, like immediately, um, mercury making sure all your fillings are, you don't have any mercury in your mouth. Um, and then again, the, the, the root canal situation, um, hair analysis, where are you at with your minerals? I would do the volume. I would do your microbiological, um, load to see where you're at.

01:02:37 I would, um, you know, if you've gotten exposed to any antibiotics at any point in your life and you didn't consciously go back to restore that your microbiological system is going to be thrown off. Um, and I would do every day, I would find a functional medicine doctor, I would say, figure out the basics of all of it. What, what am I not getting? Uh, minerals, vitamins, uh, toxic exposure, eliminate the toxins increase, obviously your plant foods like crazy. Um, uh, so, so I couldn't give advice and tell someone, tell you actually got that now that now that being said, uh, I can't really talk about it, but there's some compounds that we just I've been talking to this, this group out of Italy, um, this plant, uh, biologist who developed specifically, um, uh, neuro neuro neurodegenerative disorders, it's starting, they're showing that it's re re reversing dementia.

01:03:40 Uh Parkinson's I talked to the chief science officer himself for the company had Parkinson's and it was reversing. It's reversed 90% of his Parkinson's every known degenerative disease. So far, it's been showing this compound in this plant that they've been able to grow the plant and increase it, uh, helping this hormone called adiponectin in the body. It's reversing this stuff. So for me, I would make sure all of getting the foundation of your nutrition, the foundation of your toxic exposure, all of that needs to shift. There's definitely going to be markers that it's going to show up in there. Then you've got to test for C reactive proteins. What's the liver, what's the gallbladder. What's the digestive system. Are you even able to take in nutrients because maybe your hydrochloric acid is, is, is gone. Maybe you don't have any protease enzymes to break down any, any of the proteins who knows, but until you actually do the work, uh, do brain mapping, what's your brain showing you there's ways to do brain mapping without opening up your brain.

01:04:51 So I would do everything you can to see what's going on. From that perspective, you cannot rely on the American medical association to give you any of that information. You have to seek that information, become an advocate. And then once you start understanding, you start adding in those things that you will see that's off, and then you will eliminate a detox, the heavy metals and get the microbiological system. Because if you don't have the foundation, uh, lined up and in tune, then no matter what you do is going to be inefficient and ineffective. And if you go and you lean on all of the drugs, that's just going to kind of keep you moving forward and maybe, you know, ward it for a little bit, but it's going to win and over time. And now I do have a friend that is, I have a friend who's a wife out of Nashville.

01:05:50 She's had ALS is she was supposed to be dead four years ago, and they've shown radical nutrition changes, micro nutrients, plant-based you name it? They've been doing it. Oxygenated, water, hydrogenated, water, structured water, a whole foods, juicing, all of that stuff. And she still, she started reversing the ALS and that's never been seen. So then the ALS foundation started getting involved, what are you doing? What's going on? And so I'm excited for this other compound that we're starting to look into, um, in terms of being able to reverse, because we literally got a confidential email from one of the doctors that, um, his client by taking this compound whole food compound just has a higher amount of this active compound in it naturally exists in every plant, uh, that it was reversing. It's crazy. The Alzheimer's and the doctor absolutely said, I will give a testimonial because I saw it happen myself. So it's, there, there is. So on the one hand reiterating this whole thing, you got to know on the elemental level, what's going on in your body, what are you lacking? And on the toxic level, what are you, what have you been exposed to? Whatever you have bio accumulated what's going on. And then at the same time, start looking for these compounds that can help boost up and support whatever it is, the condition in this case. ALS yeah.

01:07:28 Yeah. And so where does someone go to kind of search that out? Cause you just throw a whole bunch, right? Like, like, do you look for a, you know, a, I mean, I don't know. I don't even know like w

01:07:39 Well you would start with, I would talk to a lot of people and get recommendations for a functional medicine doctor, a natural pathic physician, someone who has the understanding has the license and can get all those tests done and that are not going to just throw drugs at you. They're going to actually understand and look at physiologically, biologically chemically, what's going on in your body and then building that back up. Um, yeah, I mean, I would look maybe, maybe start Googling a functional ALS functional doctors, uh, neurological disorders, whatever it is. Um, and then just asking those networks you'll find, and it will, certain doctors will start, um, popping up without a doubt.

01:08:31 Okay. And just to throw it in there. Um, my buddy, uh, our family member, uh, he's, uh, owned, uh, well, he just recently owned it about eight years ago, but he worked in the pest control business for years. So, you know, we don't know, but you're like, you know what I mean? Like,

01:08:50 I, I, if I was a betting man, I would bet I would bet the farm that, that absolutely contributed to a toxic load. If you start looking, start looking into those chemicals, he's been exposed to and spraying without a doubt that contributed to even if it was immune suppressive, um, for, uh, for a decade or however long he was doing it. But these things are scary. There's, there's 60 to 90,000 toxins are admitted in our atmosphere every year with, with only about 10% that have actually been tested. This is something that is fatally messing us up. And, and the fact that someone like this innocently has a job and is committed to his job and thinking that he's got this job and getting money for his family and all of this swamp, all the, while the information, and it's not that these people don't know these chemicals, they do.

01:09:52 They just haven't stepped up, uh, to allow a normal person to, well, the FCC FDA, USDA is all compromised, which is why we just have to take on our own health. So unfortunately, people like this get exposed to, I mean, think of a case was just one, a Monsanto and bear a couple of years ago for 250 million of a, of a worker, uh, at a, you know, a groundskeeper at a school that had a case against, and he won the case. And so these guys, these chemical companies do everything they can to keep that information from the general population, because these things are poisons. You don't think that spraying this around in your ecosystem forever is contributing to some sort of degradation of your health. Well then good luck because that's, that's, that's what's going on. And that's, it goes all the way back to the stuff in our water that we need to get out, because it's just part of our world. We need to start pushing back towards these to,

01:11:14 To, to clean their act up. Uh, they just won't do it unless, um, it's pressure that gets put on because it's, it's profits first. Um, and, and, and that's, that's a system that needs to be destroyed and, uh, profits are fine. Just don't do it. Just don't do it at the expense of the environment and people's health. Yeah, no, I agree.

01:11:42 Oh, well, Hey, I appreciate you, man. You, you took so much time for us today. I appreciate it. I know this was, this was a time out of your day, but I think that we're going to help people. And I think just your message needs to be shared more and more and more, um, let people know how they can

01:11:56 Get ahold of your stuff, the book, where do you want people to go there? Yeah. So Daron aliene.com. You can sign up for the newsletter. We got a lot of cool information going out. We've got the Darren lean show, the podcast, we've got a great, uh, app one to one tribe and get three free days of plant based eating and functional movements. Uh, and, you know, follow me on Instagram, Darren Olean. Uh, and yeah, we're, we're putting a lot, a lot of things together, so that'd be a fun ride.

01:12:31 Exciting. Oh, one question I didn't ask you real quick. Is there going to be a second, a second round here of a down to earth?

01:12:37 Well, we'll find out it's their Indigo they're in negotiations. So there's a lot of things that have to line up. So my fingers are crossed, but everyone wants to, everyone wants to do it, so.

01:12:49 Okay. Awesome. Well, Hey. Alright. Well, Hey Darren, thank you so much, man. I appreciate you. And keep, keep at it. Keep, keep, keep giving it to them, man. Good.

01:12:57 Thanks for the plan on it. All right, man. Take care. Cheers brother.

01:13:03 Alright, so there you have it guys. I wasn't kidding. Right? What an awesome guest, what an awesome guy. But one thing I want to point out here is Darren is like the guy next door, like you would never know that he has this hit series on Netflix right now, or he was the co-creator of Shakology a well known company, just a really, really great guy. And it's funny that, uh, the TV show is down to earth because he's just a down to earth, great guy, and so willing to share. Doesn't overcomplicate things, speaking from the heart and really gets you thinking a little bit, a little bit more about the environment, a little bit more about ourselves. Uh, and also just his opinions on certain things in, you know, the modern day world that we're living in. And, uh, again, I just have to pinch myself sometimes because this podcast has allowed me to reach some really awesome guests like Darren.

01:14:03 And, uh, now I'm able to bring them to you, which I'm really, really thankful for. So hopefully you enjoyed this, this episode as much as I really enjoyed creating it for you and doing this interview. And I really look forward to doing more of these. So definitely stay tuned. All right, to this podcast, this was episode eight 85. If you want all the show notes, transcripts, all of the goodies head on over to brand creators.com forward slash eight 85, and you can get it all over there. And then also if you're listening to this on the podcast, if you want to watch the video interview, definitely go to that show notes page. And I will embed that video there you can, you can see actually, Darren they're wearing his cool glasses. Uh, and then also he's in this really cool, uh, place that, um, that he's living right now.

01:14:52 And, uh, well, the one thing that we didn't talk about either is in that show at the very end, uh, there was the California fires and, uh, his house actually burnt to the ground, nothing left, and now he has to rebuild and, uh, I won't give it away. But at the end of the, uh, of that series, you kinda, you see that happen to him and what he does as it happens. And does he carry on the show or does he leave? And, uh, he's just, again, he's just a remarkable guy. Uh, and again, he's been through a lot and he shares that all, but anyway, I'm going to leave it at that, go and check out the show notes, brand creators.com forward slash eight 85. And again, just think about some things that he said, listen to his podcast. It's really, really good. And, uh, yeah, I look forward to having more people on like Darren that can help us live healthier lives and also do good for the environment and for the planet that we live on. So guys, that's it. That's going to wrap it up as always remember, I'm here for you. I believe in you and I am rooting for you, but you have to, you have to come up, say it with me, say it loud, say it. Proud. Take action. Have an awesome, amazing day. And I'll see you right back here on the next episode. Now let's rock your brand.